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Offline Griff Grof

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Is it right to ever find your own caches?
« on: January 27, 2014, 08:00:17 am »
For instance, if you've placed a cache with someone under their account should you ever log it? Caches you've adopted but haven't found? Your caches you've sent for adoption? Any other examples?

What do you think?
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Re: Is it right to ever find your own caches?
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2014, 12:39:31 pm »
Personally, if I let any of my caches get adopted I wouldn't claim a find on them. Caches I have adopted I don't have a problem claiming the find as long as it was before the adoption.

If you have placed a cache with another cacher then again no problem claiming it at a later date.

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Re: Is it right to ever find your own caches?
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2014, 01:14:31 pm »
The short answer is - it depends, which isn't much of an answer ::)


So, I found Glorious Glos cache years ago but now through adoption, I own it - I can't see any issue with this.


I would have thought before you adopted a cache, you would have had some interest in that cache, so therefore had already found it. But, if for some reason you hadn't found it and adopted it, then no.


Caches you've put up for adoption - There are different levels here:

1) Is any special knowledge needed to find this cache e.g. solving clues or cyphers, travelling distance to collect information you already have, etc
2) Ingenious cache hides (similar to 1 above but this is about the physical side)
3) Regular caches

Case 3: I can't see any issue once adopted, they aren't your caches, so yes especially as we all know, caches get moved about at GZ and sometimes you can't find your own caches doing maintenance :o
Case 2: This is more difficult especially if the D/T is an unusual one, as you know what to look for
Case 1: If you go through the steps a cacher with no prior knowledge would go through, yes but also case 2 applies here.


Helping a CO place a new cache - There are different levels here:

1) Did you physically place the cache in the 'hole' for the CO
2) You visited the site but the CO placed it while you weren't looking or not there
3) You just helped with the listing and suggested hiding spots but hadn't visited GZ

I think in any of these cases, yes you should be able to find this cache but for cases 1 & perhaps 2: no FTF, case 3: I would let others have chance for a FTF as you had prior knowledge but are you that desperate for a FTF ???


As TJ says:
Ultimately, it is only yourself you have to satisfy
« Last Edit: January 27, 2014, 01:18:16 pm by walktall »
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Re: Is it right to ever find your own caches?
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2014, 01:31:55 pm »
Ultimately, it is only yourself you have to satisfy
This.

I see cachers with high numbers of finds, who haven't actually found some that they log.
I have looked at archived caches and I have seen cachers who have logged those when they clearly haven't.
I have seen a lot of things that could easily annoy me if they were against Geocaching rules...

But Geocaching is mostly covered by guidelines, not rules, so any number stats are not that meaningful unless you compare with another cacher who you know has played the same way as you.

If Groundspeak really wanted to enforce not finding caches you have hidden but have been adopted by others, or not logging archived caches, or other reasons, they could easily implement the restriction. But they have chosen not to.

As they have left it open to us if we want to log a find or not on these sort of examples, I leave my opinion open, in that I would decide on a case by case example as if I would log a find or not. I certainly not about to log caches if I feel I am cheating myself.

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Re: Is it right to ever find your own caches?
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2014, 05:51:39 pm »
Ultimately, it is only yourself you have to satisfy
I echo... ^ this. TJ, have you ever considered writing 'The Philosophy of Caching"  ;D

I agree with what you've all said though.
The Kildanes caches Wacky races still owns are walking distance, but I haven't logged them.
I doubt I would log my own caches after sending them for adoption, but, as you say WT, they move  :o

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Re: Is it right to ever find your own caches?
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2014, 04:31:51 pm »
No.
But everyone has their own caching rules. What's right for one isn't necessarily right for another.

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Re: Is it right to ever find your own caches?
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2014, 12:10:56 pm »
I've found a standard multi cache which I've then gone on to adopt and also my event cache.  That's all. 

 


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