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Re: Adventure Lab
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2019, 11:10:31 am »
Thatís frustrating.

Looking at the app, there are a few new ones out now. Theyíre all rated 5 star  ::)
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Re: Adventure Lab
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2019, 09:21:28 am »
Run out of time with me going away :(

I did get an email reminder from GC HQ so I replied, saying the timing was very bad for me with a busy July and me going to two Mega's. Had nothing back from them yet.
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Re: Adventure Lab
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2019, 10:38:53 am »
Now that Iíve actually completed some Adventure Labs (four at Aberdeen and one at GCF) Iíve got some more comments.

I actually quite liked them - itís great how they can lead you on a tour around somewhere. The app works very well. I really like the sense of achievement after completing each one (e.g. the stars displaying on the screen, which is a nice touch).

They seem to have really caught on - in Aberdeenshire, people (including myself) were spending an afternoon completing them rather than finding a Ďproperí series of caches elsewhere. There are lots more on the app now, and people are travelling to complete them just as theyíd travel to find a Ďproperí cache.

So, I do think they have a place in geocaching.

But Lab caches still need to be taken more seriously if this is going to work long-term.

I spoke to several others at GCF who agreed that Adventure Labs should have D/T ratings, size, and integration with the geocaching website and app (i.e. the starting Lab appearing on the map). Project-GC donít include Lab caches where they would be appropriate (e.g. number of finds per month, per year, etc.) which is really annoying as GC.com says August 2019 was my best month but Project-GC doesnít. Apparently Project-GC do include Labs if youíre a paying member... but with Adventure Labs possibly being permanent, and lots more around, peopleís Lab cache counts are increasing fast and I really think they should be included on Project-GC just like any other cache type... theyíre no longer one-off caches available for Mega and Giga events.
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Re: Adventure Lab
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2019, 10:09:11 am »
I wonder with the changing World we live in and more security concerns, that non-physical caching is the way that GC is heading.

I was speaking to a reviewer at a normal Event and he was asking for cachers to make valid comments known to GC if an Adventure Lab is poor, as they want to set a good base for these and to weed out the poor ones.

Lab caches have been going for some time now but still not fully included in your stats :(
Now we have Adventure Labs, still in a testing phase but how long will this last or after the failure of the Challenge caches (which were wiped off the whole GC system), are they being very cautious.
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Re: Adventure Lab
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2020, 01:22:53 pm »
It's been one year since the last post on this thread, and I've actually grown to really like Adventure Labs :o ;D

I've been awarded one, but have no idea where to put it - most interesting towns/villages already have one! Roman Cirencester came to mind, but a new one appeared there a couple of days ago... so it's back to the drawing board ::)
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Re: Adventure Lab
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2020, 09:04:08 pm »
Still don't like how they are treated differently to other caches and now no GPX file either :(

BUT saying all that, I can see the enjoyment doing them :)
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Re: Adventure Lab
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2020, 12:54:59 pm »
Still don't like how they are treated differently to other caches and now no GPX file either :(

HQ have said that theyíll be on the main geocaching map by the end of this year. They also said that itíll be easier to find caches and complete ALs at the same time - so I assume that the Lab app will show caches, and vice versa (maybe tapping on a cache in the lab app will switch you to the geocaching app).

But I agree - even if they do that, thereís still a long way to go. Why canít their name be listed on the GC website leaderboard (it just says ďAdventure Lab cacheĒ for each stage)? Why canít they show up in your list of finds (clicking on the name could just send you to the app download page)? Why canít their size be listed as Ďvirtualí, or simply Ďotherí? Why canít the CO give a D/T rating for each stage?

I personally donít mind the requirement to use the app... itís just one of many cache types.

One thing that also annoys me, which isnít HQís fault, is that Project-GC doesnít count labs (unless you pay). I understood this when they were exclusive to big events, but there are thousands of permanent Adventure Lab stages across the world now. So, surely they should treat them as a normal cache type?
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Re: Adventure Lab
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2020, 09:44:22 am »
Good to hear they trying to integrate them more onto the main GC site.

I personally donít mind the requirement to use the app... itís just one of many cache types.

The only problem with only available on the app is that you have to have an internet connection on your mobile. Last night was a classic example on a FTF hunt. I found a cache (https://coord.info/GC8ZPN6) near Elmley Castle (south of Evesham) and I like to log the find with a quick FTF FLTF, so others can see its been found but I had no internet on my mobile; I wouldn't call where I was "in the back & beyond". I wonder what areas of the UK will be no go areas for AL's :o

 A GPX download for Labs would solve this issue (hang on they use to have this!) and you log them when you have a connection again.

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Re: Adventure Lab
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2020, 12:25:16 pm »
I agree that a GPX download should be an option for those who want it.

I was looking at the 'logs' for the new Labs in Painswick, and people are reporting poor phone signal there :(

I guess that's why most Labs are tours of larger towns and cities, rather than more rural areas.
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Re: Adventure Lab
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2020, 11:30:19 am »
Forgot to check to see if there were any AL's about on my holiday in Cornwall till I read a log on a standard cache :o

So decided to try Kit Hill's AL and nearly gave up doing it :o I found the AL had to be done in order but according to the CO of the physical bonus (https://coord.info/GC8MC9P), you could do them in any order, I wasn't given a choice and ended retracing my steps twice, up and down the hill >:(

I checked the physical bonus cache and saw you had to retrace your steps again and go a bit further, by then I had just given up, so didn't do the bonus.
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Re: Adventure Lab
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2020, 11:16:49 am »
That sounds very annoying. :(

I saw a new AL pop up yesterday that covered 3 of the 5 stages of another (still active) AL in the same town :o - before too long, most towns/villages of interest will have one, and then what?

It was inevitable, but several of my ideas have now been taken, and the way things are going, I don't know whether I'll manage to set one up before the deadline :( I don't really understand why there are deadlines, and why they are so close... Virtual rewards had to be placed within 12 months, not 2 months!  :D
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Re: Adventure Lab
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2020, 10:02:41 pm »
My AL ran out of time :o Still trying to get it reactivated or a replacement
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Re: Adventure Lab
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2020, 11:08:35 pm »
And now its been reactivated  8)
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